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in fact it's not a marathon. I was about to say

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L Amour say gundo la tecnica anything can happen this is Thailand and time and again Thailand has demonstrated

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that

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anything can happen I have another favorite word this word

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makes me excited

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it starts with an s

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it it has an e in it okay s e what do you think no it has an e in it

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this is คำดี featuring my name is Vic and welcome to the show

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and today we're talking to people

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.thank you for having me oh you're welcome

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is

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great pleasure that you stopped by today

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oh it's my pleasure the pleasure is all mine okay so actually we're neighbors right

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exactly because you're working over at the standard

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. for the global Focus program

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yes yeah um so it's a once a week program since you give me um this opportunity

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. please allow me to promote my program sure of course go ahead Noble focus is a weekly program

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and me and my team will pick international news that we think would be interesting

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the audience and present it to you once a week. I'm a big fan also thank you

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. you used to like once you

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did the interview in English too. to talking to the first French woman

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Astronaut Astronaut exactly exactly I love that yeah me too yeah she was so inspiring

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so many ways so do you still get to do the English interview often

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not anymore not as much as I would like and not as much as before yeah actually your your your problem is kind of like

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similar to most people's problem

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in Thailand because we have been taking all these courses and classes in English

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. since we are what like

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7 right. and we don't get to use English

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. then you have to create opportunities for yourself to

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speak in the front of the camera or sometimes I'll just um pick out an articles

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an article. and they just read it out aloud so that

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I won't forget

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. yeah just like any skills on Earth

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. if you want to maintain it and

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keep it up

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. you have to practice. so that's what I'm doing every day as well unfortunate in the sense

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that in my line of job

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. I get to practice English 1 way or another. so I think that's how I

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key polishing my English. well it's funny you mentioned like talking in front of camera because

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30 years ago. it would be so hard like impossible for you to talk in front of a camera but right now everybody has camera

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in their own hands so you can just talk to camera whenever you can put content on

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how you can put content on YouTube

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done right

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I used to talk in front of the mirror actually. oh really. to look at myself not so much on the camera. yeah. but I think camera is

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can help because you can replay and look at yourself how you look or how you sound when you speak in Thai English or whatever language is

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you want

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whatever you do when you uh still anchoring at the nation and on TV

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uh in the beginning in the beginning yeah I'll just practice by myself at home

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speaking out loud so that I would

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my my nerve down somehow because I get excited too you mentioned before we started taping

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that you were nervous

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and I couldn't believe it because you've done this for you have been doing this for over 20 years

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exactly yeah you still get nervous... but I've never talked to you

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so that's a good excitement

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okay so I'm excited to be meeting you

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yeah that was a good kind of excitement yes I look forward to getting to talk to you oh me too same here so I'm also

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excited about the show today so um let's go back to

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20 years ago

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. when you first started umm before you got this job as

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. what did you do then

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before that before that um before that I spent a short time at B

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OI Thailand Board of Investments okay and then before that I just graduated from University

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so it's a it was a very short time at Boi and then I went to um Nation TV

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so I it was 1 of your first jobs

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you started out in in the business

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exactly how did you train yourself or how did you uh practice to be on camera

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besides talking in front of a mirror of course

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uh I look at how other people do it like or all the other more

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experience journalists do it and then

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keep on doing it I guess practice makes perfect so the more you do it then you're more the more you get the

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feel of it and I guess that's how I would start to feel more comfortable about

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saying things or reporting in front of the camera. did you have any Idol that you look up to

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like the styles the um uh the way they like report news

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. um not so much of the style but I think I learned a lot from

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... um especially how he would focus on the content

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what we want to say and not so much about

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exactly that's amazing and he's been like developing he's been uh changing he's been

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on his part exactly so working with him I learned a lot especially how he

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at least I have to jog right. or else he will be so far ahead that I can't catch up with him

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. so he has been a role model in many ways.as a journalist as

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a person who is very

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diligent and hardworking. and he's always curious about the world around him

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. so you were like fresh

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out of college so to speak. more or less yeah more or less and

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on camera. and I have my style and I'm confident now

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half a year I think oh okay yeah before before I can

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it would be it faster whenever you know the cameraman say 5 4 3 2 1 and then camera right

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yeah my heart would beat faster but then the time that I can calm it down would

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be shorter and shorter. ah you control yourself better. yeah a little bit

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by bit by bit I think right okay and how about when you first

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kind of develop your own style that people can tell the difference between without and other people

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how I will be on camera. I I don't plan on that at all. I'm just being myself like that

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. talking to you okay and I think

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. so there's no intentional design.no. in advance of how you want to look

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not at all this I see yeah this is me this is the way I am yeah

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and people love that

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oh thank you yeah me too oh thank you thank you I think everyone is unique

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. like I look at you

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you're yourself the way you talk the way you react and I think we all can sense that

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that's the sincerity right that we

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talk to them on camera yeah but

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anyway you came before me like

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at least. so I I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot from you today

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I I was curious what you think about how

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for a lot of people to just be on camera and act as

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you know really report uh from these things

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to like analyze whatever is going on in the world

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it was pretty easy today.

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like um you know the opportunity that they can learn and speaking English.  opportunity to practice themselves

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in front of a camera and Technology helps a lot too

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. it's pretty easy and how how how do you think about that. um I think it's

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easier in the sense that technology helps with the flow of information. right it's very easy to find information

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from Google from the internet

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at the same time because of this overflow of information. I think you have to really be able to

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. what is what is fake news

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what is real news what is facts

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and what is opinion I think

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that's the line that you must be able to draw

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with all the information that you see

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. yeah so you don't see it as a problem or a threat

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or someone who came before like a lot of photographers out there were talking about how

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a technology these days. or you know the the quality of the camera on on the phone can

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so you don't have any problem with that in terms of like people acting as a news reporter

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. all are welcome is an open field. I think it's totally up to you

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to the audience to decide who they want to listen to maybe it's because of the style of the

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personality of the content of

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whatever factors yeah um accessibility like

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. maybe people are still watching that maybe for some people so it's totally fine. I think platforms are

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not important at all as long as you can have access to all of those information

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to listen to the people that you like I think that's fine. okay

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so talking about platforms um where can we find you these days besides

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on global forecast at the standard

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. ... Monday to Friday okay so how how you say it

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working out over there

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. are are you happy and and oh yeah this is fun yeah it is fun I had great time working there. because I get

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the media landscape as well. um we are talking about the audience who is a

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the mass audience

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. yeah so the type of news

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to coincide with their

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something that we have to decide on as well

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that is something challenging