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it's like watching series as well ah something somewhere

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something is going to happen yeah learning another language is not a Sprint.

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in fact it's not a marathon I was about to say

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El Amor se gundo la tecnica anything can happen this is Thailand and time and again

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. Thailand has demonstrated that

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anything can happen I have another favorite word. this word

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makes me excited. it starts with an s

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read a little bit faster every time. I see it it has an e in it okay

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what do you think no it has an e in it.

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this is kamdi featuring my name is big and welcome to the show

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. and today we're talking to .

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.. thank you for having me oh you're welcome

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. is

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great pleasure that you stopped by today

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. oh it's my pleasure the pleasure is all mine. okay so actually we're neighbors right

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exactly because you're working over at the standard

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for the global Focus program

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yes yeah um so it's a once a week program since you give me um this opportunity

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please allow me to promote my program. sure of course go ahead proper focus is a weekly program

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.and me and my team will pick international news that we think would be interesting

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for the audience and present it to you once a week I'm a big fan also thank you

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you used to like once you

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did the interview in English to talking to the first French woman

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Astronaut Astronaut exactly exactly. I love that yeah me too yeah she was so inspiring

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so many ways. so do you still get to do the English interview often.

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not anymore not as much as I would like and not as much as before . actually your your your problem is kind of like

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a similar to most people's problem

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in Thailand. because we have been taking all these courses and classes in English

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. since we are what like

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7 right and we don't get to use English

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almost

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never

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. then you have to create opportunities for yourself to

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speaking the front of the camera or sometimes I'll just um pick out an articles

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. an article and they just read it out aloud so that

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I won't forget

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. yeah just like any skills on Earth

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if you want to maintain it. and

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keep it up

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. you have to practice yeah so that's what I'm doing every day as well unfortunate in the sense

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that in my line of job.

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I get to practice English 1 way or another. so I think that's how

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keep polishing my English

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well it's funny you mentioned like talking in front of camera. because

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30 years ago it would be so hard like impossible for you to talk in front of a camera. but right now everybody has camera

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in their own hands so you can just talk to camera whenever you can put content on TikTok you can put content on YouTube

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and done right.

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I used to talk in front of the mirror actually oh really to look at myself not so much on the camera. yeah but I think camera is

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can help because you can replay and look at yourself how you look or how you sound. when you speak in Thai English or whatever languages

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that you want

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. was that what you do when you're uh still anchoring at the nation and on TV

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. uh in the beginning in the beginning yeah I'll just practice by myself at home

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. um speaking out loud so that I would

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come my my nerve down somehow because I get excited too you mentioned before we started taping

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that you were nervous

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. and I couldn't believe it because you've done this

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for you have been doing this for over 20 years exactly but you still get nervous but I've never

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talk to you

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okay so I'm excited to be meeting you

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. so that's a good excitement

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yeah that's a good kind of excitement yes I look forward to getting to talk to you oh me too same here so I'm also excited about the show today so um let's go back to

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20 years ago.

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when you first started um before you got this job as a

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news anchor

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what did you do then

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before that before that um before that I spent a short time at B

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OI Thailand's Board of Investments okay and then before that I just graduated from University

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it was a very short time at BOI and then I went to um Nation TV. So I it was 1 of your first jobs

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you started out in in the business

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exactly how did you train yourself or how did you uh practice to be on camera

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besides talking in front of a mirror of course

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uh I look at how other people do it like or all the other more

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experience um journalists do it and then

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keep on doing it I guess practice makes perfect. so the more you do it then you're more the more you get the

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feel of it and I guess that's how I would start to feel more comfortable about

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saying things or reporting in front of the camera did you have any Idol that you look up to

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and try to probably learn from

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the styles the um uh the way they like report news

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. um not so much of the style but I think I learned a lot from

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... um especially how he would focus on the content

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of

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we want to say and not so much about

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how we look so that's what he and a lot of people look up to ... and still today he's still doing news

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exactly that's amazing and he's been like developing he's been uh changing he's been

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um like going with the trends

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that's amazing.

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on his part.. exactly so working with him. I learned a lot especially how he

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he just doesn't stop

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he keeps on running so in order to keep up with him

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at least I have to jog right or else he will be so far ahead that I can't catch up with him

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so he has been a role model in many ways as a journalist as

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a person who is very

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diligent and hardworking and he's always curious about the world around him

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. so you were like fresh

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out of college so to speak more or less yeah more or less and

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when was the first time that you got the feelings that

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I got it

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. I have already discovered who I am

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. on camera.and I have my style and I'm confident now.

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oh it took up quite a long while yeah yeah years or months. at least half a year

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here I think. oh okay yeah before before I can

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control myself

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to the point that

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. my heart

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it would be it faster whenever you know the cameraman say 54321 and then camera right

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yeah my heart would beat faster but then the time that I can calm it down

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be shorter and shorter ah you control yourself better yeah a little bit

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bit by bit I think right okay and how about when you first

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know that you

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kind of develop your own style that people can tell the difference between ... without and other people

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that I really I think I have to ask the audience for that yeah because I'm just being myself. I guess I don't

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I don't plan on.

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how I will be on camera I I don't plan on that at all I'm just being myself like that

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. right talking to you okay and I think

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it is um

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it's just natural

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. so there's no intentional design no in advance of how you want to look

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or no

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not at all this I see yeah this is me this is the way I am yeah

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and people love that

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oh thank you yeah me too oh thank you thank you I think everyone is unique

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like I look at you

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you're yourself the way you talk the way you react and I think we all can sense that

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. that's the sincerity. right. that we

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talk to them on camera. yeah but

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anyway you came before me like

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15 years.

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at least so I I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot from you today

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. so

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I I was curious what you think about how

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easy it seems

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for a lot of people to just be on camera and act

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a reporter or

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do you know really report uh from these things

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sometimes or

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to like analyze whatever is going on in the world

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it was pretty easy today.

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like um you know the opportunity that they can learn and uh speaking English uh opportunity to

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pratice themselves in front of a camera and Technology helps a lot too

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it's pretty easy and how how how do you think about that um I think

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easier in the sense that technology helps with the flow of information right

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it's very easy to find information um from Google from the internet

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but

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at the same time because of this overflow of information I think you have to really be able to

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distinguish

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what is what is fake news

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what is real news what is facts

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and what is opinion I think

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that's the line that you must be able to draw

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with all the information that you see

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yeah so you don't see it as a problem or a threat for someone who came before like a lot of photographers out there

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here we're talking about how you know

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technology these days or you know the the quality of the camera on on the phone can

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can

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enable a lot of people to be

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almost as good or even better than a professional photographer

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so you don't have any problem with that