it's like watching series as well ah something somewheresomething is going to happen yeah learning another language is not a Sprint.in fact it's not a marathon I was about to sayEl Amor se gundo la tecnica anything can happen this is Thailand and time and again. Thailand has demonstrated thatanything can happen I have another favorite word. this word makes me excited. it starts with an sread a little bit faster every time. I see it it has an e in it okay what do you think no it has an e in it.this is kamdi featuring my name is big and welcome to the show. and today we're talking to ... thank you for having me oh you're welcome. is great pleasure that you stopped by today. oh it's my pleasure the pleasure is all mine. okay so actually we're neighbors right exactly because you're working over at the standardfor the global Focus programyes yeah um so it's a once a week program since you give me um this opportunityplease allow me to promote my program. sure of course go ahead proper focus is a weekly program.and me and my team will pick international news that we think would be interesting for the audience and present it to you once a week I'm a big fan also thank you you used to like once you did the interview in English to talking to the first French woman Astronaut Astronaut exactly exactly. I love that yeah me too yeah she was so inspiring so many ways. so do you still get to do the English interview often. not anymore not as much as I would like and not as much as before . actually your your your problem is kind of like a similar to most people's problem in Thailand. because we have been taking all these courses and classes in English. since we are what like 7 right and we don't get to use English almost never. then you have to create opportunities for yourself to speaking the front of the camera or sometimes I'll just um pick out an articles. an article and they just read it out aloud so that I won't forget. yeah just like any skills on Earth if you want to maintain it. and keep it up. you have to practice yeah so that's what I'm doing every day as well unfortunate in the sense that in my line of job. I get to practice English 1 way or another. so I think that's how I keep polishing my English well it's funny you mentioned like talking in front of camera. because 30 years ago it would be so hard like impossible for you to talk in front of a camera. but right now everybody has camera in their own hands so you can just talk to camera whenever you can put content on TikTok you can put content on YouTube and done right. I used to talk in front of the mirror actually oh really to look at myself not so much on the camera. yeah but I think camera is can help because you can replay and look at yourself how you look or how you sound. when you speak in Thai English or whatever languages that you want. was that what you do when you're uh still anchoring at the nation and on TV. uh in the beginning in the beginning yeah I'll just practice by myself at home. um speaking out loud so that I would come my my nerve down somehow because I get excited too you mentioned before we started taping that you were nervous. and I couldn't believe it because you've done this for you have been doing this for over 20 years exactly but you still get nervous but I've never talk to you okay so I'm excited to be meeting you . so that's a good excitementyeah that's a good kind of excitement yes I look forward to getting to talk to you oh me too same here so I'm also excited about the show today so um let's go back to 20 years ago. when you first started um before you got this job as a news anchor what did you do then before that before that um before that I spent a short time at BOI Thailand's Board of Investments okay and then before that I just graduated from University. So it's it was a very short time at BOI and then I went to um Nation TV. So I it was 1 of your first jobs you started out in in the business exactly how did you train yourself or how did you uh practice to be on camera besides talking in front of a mirror of course uh I look at how other people do it like or all the other more experience um journalists do it and thenkeep on doing it I guess practice makes perfect. so the more you do it then you're more the more you get the feel of it and I guess that's how I would start to feel more comfortable about saying things or reporting in front of the camera did you have any Idol that you look up to and try to probably learn from the styles the um uh the way they like report news. um not so much of the style but I think I learned a lot from ... um especially how he would focus on the content ofwe want to say and not so much about how we look so that's what he and a lot of people look up to ... and still today he's still doing news exactly that's amazing and he's been like developing he's been uh changing he's been um like going with the trends that's amazing. on his part.. exactly so working with him. I learned a lot especially how he he just doesn't stop yeah he keeps on running so in order to keep up with him at least I have to jog right or else he will be so far ahead that I can't catch up with him so he has been a role model in many ways as a journalist as a person who is very diligent and hardworking and he's always curious about the world around him. so you were like fresh out of college so to speak more or less yeah more or less and when was the first time that you got the feelings that I got it. I have already discovered who I am. on camera.and I have my style and I'm confident now. oh it took up quite a long while yeah yeah years or months. at least half a year here I think. oh okay yeah before before I can control myself to the point that. my heart it would be it faster whenever you know the cameraman say 54321 and then camera right yeah my heart would beat faster but then the time that I can calm it down be shorter and shorter ah you control yourself better yeah a little bit bit by bit I think right okay and how about when you first know that you kind of develop your own style that people can tell the difference between ... without and other people oh that that I really I think I have to ask the audience for that yeah because I'm just being myself. I guess I don't I don't plan on. how I will be on camera I I don't plan on that at all I'm just being myself like that. right talking to you okay and I think it is um it's just natural. so there's no intentional design no in advance of how you want to look or no not at all this I see yeah this is me this is the way I am yeah and people love that oh thank you yeah me too oh thank you thank you I think everyone is unique like I look at you you're yourself the way you talk the way you react and I think we all can sense that. that's the sincerity. right. that we talk to them on camera. yeah but anyway you came before me like 15 years. at least so I I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot from you today. so I I was curious what you think about how easy it seems for a lot of people to just be on camera and act a reporter or do you know really report uh from these things sometimes or to like analyze whatever is going on in the world it was pretty easy today. like um you know the opportunity that they can learn and uh speaking English uh opportunity to pratice themselves in front of a camera and Technology helps a lot too it's pretty easy and how how how do you think about that um I think easier in the sense that technology helps with the flow of information right it's very easy to find information um from Google from the internet but at the same time because of this overflow of information I think you have to really be able to distinguish what is what is fake news what is real news what is facts and what is opinion I think that's the line that you must be able to draw with all the information that you seeyeah so you don't see it as a problem or a threat for someone who came before like a lot of photographers out there here we're talking about how you know technology these days or you know the the quality of the camera on on the phone can can enable a lot of people to be almost as good or even better than a professional photographerso you don't have any problem with that